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		<title>By: Read Write Poem</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/blog/2008/06/17/poll-dance-its-not-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-1835</link>
		<dc:creator>Read Write Poem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the poll results:

&lt;strong&gt;Sometimes people write poetry about very personal topics. The hardest one for me to write about is: (Choose one.) &lt;/strong&gt;
Sex (40%, 20 Votes)
Difficult family relationships (22%, 11 Votes)
Abuse or violence (12%, 6 Votes)
Marriage or dating (10%, 5 Votes)
I write about these things but don’t let anyone else read them; they’re private (8%, 4 Votes)
I don’t write about these things; they’re private (4%, 2 Votes)
Mental wellbeing or illness (2%, 1 Votes)
Doubt or fear (2%, 1 Votes)
My body (0%, 0 Votes)
Physical wellbeing or illness (0%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters: &lt;strong&gt;50&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the poll results:</p>
<p><strong>Sometimes people write poetry about very personal topics. The hardest one for me to write about is: (Choose one.) </strong><br />
Sex (40%, 20 Votes)<br />
Difficult family relationships (22%, 11 Votes)<br />
Abuse or violence (12%, 6 Votes)<br />
Marriage or dating (10%, 5 Votes)<br />
I write about these things but don’t let anyone else read them; they’re private (8%, 4 Votes)<br />
I don’t write about these things; they’re private (4%, 2 Votes)<br />
Mental wellbeing or illness (2%, 1 Votes)<br />
Doubt or fear (2%, 1 Votes)<br />
My body (0%, 0 Votes)<br />
Physical wellbeing or illness (0%, 0 Votes)<br />
Total Voters: <strong>50</strong></p>
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		<title>By: sister AE</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/blog/2008/06/17/poll-dance-its-not-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-1834</link>
		<dc:creator>sister AE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Carolee.  This makes me think that when I face a topic I think I &quot;can&#039;t&quot; write about, perhaps it is because I am staring at it straight in the face.  Changing the point of view, or sliding to the side of a topic is a better way to get into the heart of it.

Definitely some things to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Carolee.  This makes me think that when I face a topic I think I &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221; write about, perhaps it is because I am staring at it straight in the face.  Changing the point of view, or sliding to the side of a topic is a better way to get into the heart of it.</p>
<p>Definitely some things to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: carolee</title>
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		<dc:creator>carolee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as always, the read write poem crowd gets me all excited! you guys know your stuff, and your comments are always so compelling! blythe, i&#039;m especially moved by what you said: &quot;i also have a hard time &#039;not&#039; writing about them.&quot; that is so true and adds a whole new dimension to the discussion.

i&#039;m off to check out all of your recommendations ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as always, the read write poem crowd gets me all excited! you guys know your stuff, and your comments are always so compelling! blythe, i&#8217;m especially moved by what you said: &#8220;i also have a hard time &#8216;not&#8217; writing about them.&#8221; that is so true and adds a whole new dimension to the discussion.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m off to check out all of your recommendations &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: blythe</title>
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		<dc:creator>blythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, pdw.  Several of these are new to me and great new finds.

I have a hard time writing about several of these topics (abuse, death, sex) but also have a hard time *not* writing about them.

I know I&#039;ve read a lot of poems that deal with these subjects well, but there are two that immediately came to mind:

On difficult family relationships, Mary Oliver has a great poem about the flowers that helped her face the difficulties at home when she was a child (or the narrator was).  I cannot remember the name of the specific flower (or thus, the poem)... it&#039;s from &quot;Why I Wake Early.&quot;  Anyone know what I&#039;m talking about??

On depression/suicide/death, Jim Brock has &lt;a href=&quot;http://picturesthatgotsmall.blogspot.com/2006/07/independence-day-and-confessional.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a great piece called &quot;To the coroner who did not have to draw my blood.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  It&#039;s really, really amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, pdw.  Several of these are new to me and great new finds.</p>
<p>I have a hard time writing about several of these topics (abuse, death, sex) but also have a hard time *not* writing about them.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;ve read a lot of poems that deal with these subjects well, but there are two that immediately came to mind:</p>
<p>On difficult family relationships, Mary Oliver has a great poem about the flowers that helped her face the difficulties at home when she was a child (or the narrator was).  I cannot remember the name of the specific flower (or thus, the poem)&#8230; it&#8217;s from &#8220;Why I Wake Early.&#8221;  Anyone know what I&#8217;m talking about??</p>
<p>On depression/suicide/death, Jim Brock has <a href="http://picturesthatgotsmall.blogspot.com/2006/07/independence-day-and-confessional.html" rel="nofollow">a great piece called &#8220;To the coroner who did not have to draw my blood.&#8221;</a>  It&#8217;s really, really amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: ybonesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ybonesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing. My blog partner wrote the post &quot;Why Writers Don&#039;t Write About Sex,&quot; and I remembered it has a Galway Kinnell poem titled &quot;Sex&quot; in it: http://redravine.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/why-writers-dont-write-about-sex/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing. My blog partner wrote the post &#8220;Why Writers Don&#8217;t Write About Sex,&#8221; and I remembered it has a Galway Kinnell poem titled &#8220;Sex&#8221; in it: <a href="http://redravine.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/why-writers-dont-write-about-sex/" rel="nofollow">http://redravine.wordpress.com/2007/06/26/why-writers-dont-write-about-sex/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ybonesy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ybonesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great essay, Carolee. Excellent topic backed by the kind of examples one can reference again and again.

I think immediately not of a poem but political essays by Steve Almond in his book (Not That You Asked). &quot;Politics&quot; wasn&#039;t on your list, and I know there are many political publications and blogs, but for those of us who write about the ordinary and familiar, politics can be a challenging topic.

Here is the link to Steve Almonds website, and it has some examples of his humorous essays: http://www.stevenalmond.com/content.php?page=ntya&amp;n=2&amp;f=2.

Don&#039;t let his humor trick you into thinking that his writing is not politically charged and hard-hitting. It is all of the above. I love it; it supports my political leanings, but more than that, as a writer I appreciate and admire the risks he takes.

p.s., I just added readwritepoem to our links under our category Lynx. I don&#039;t know what took me so long. It&#039;s such a great site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great essay, Carolee. Excellent topic backed by the kind of examples one can reference again and again.</p>
<p>I think immediately not of a poem but political essays by Steve Almond in his book (Not That You Asked). &#8220;Politics&#8221; wasn&#8217;t on your list, and I know there are many political publications and blogs, but for those of us who write about the ordinary and familiar, politics can be a challenging topic.</p>
<p>Here is the link to Steve Almonds website, and it has some examples of his humorous essays: <a href="http://www.stevenalmond.com/content.php?page=ntya&amp;n=2&amp;f=2" rel="nofollow">http://www.stevenalmond.com/content.php?page=ntya&amp;n=2&amp;f=2</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t let his humor trick you into thinking that his writing is not politically charged and hard-hitting. It is all of the above. I love it; it supports my political leanings, but more than that, as a writer I appreciate and admire the risks he takes.</p>
<p>p.s., I just added readwritepoem to our links under our category Lynx. I don&#8217;t know what took me so long. It&#8217;s such a great site!</p>
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		<title>By: Read Write Poem</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/blog/2008/06/17/poll-dance-its-not-easy/comment-page-1/#comment-1828</link>
		<dc:creator>Read Write Poem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, one link per comment, or you&#039;ll get stuck in the hyper-active spam filter.

Like Donald did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, one link per comment, or you&#8217;ll get stuck in the hyper-active spam filter.</p>
<p>Like Donald did.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Harbour</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Harbour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhh, Carolee....Once again you pirouette on the piquant plate of poetry. You have done your homework.

I heard a noted physician say that there are three things the human mind requires to be healthy: sleep, food, and sex. Odd isn&#039;t it that as sentient creatures we often deprive our physical and mental well being of one or two of those needs. When thus deprived the mind and body indulges in over compensation for the missing need. I ponder, could it be said that deprivation of one of those three important mind needs is the pivot point of all the worlds troubles? Just an observation to titillate your poetic musings.

Here are some works to grind up in your mental latte.

1. Sleep: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.everypoet.com/Archive/Poetry/John_Keats/keats_to_sleep.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt; &#039;To Sleep&#039; by John Keats&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

2.Food: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-clean-plater/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&#039;The Clean Plater&#039; by Ogden Nash&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

3. Sex: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bartleby.com/142/20.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&#039;A Woman Waits for Me&#039; by Walt Whitman&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Ginsberg is beginning to &#039;Howl&#039; in the back of my poetic mail room. But then if I linked his poem here (...thoughtful proverbial pregnant pause...) oh what the heck? Alright, Allen! Sum up all those life instances Carolee noted for the prompt. &lt;a href=&quot;http://members.tripod.com/~Sprayberry/poems/howl.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&#039;Howl&#039; by Allen Ginsberg&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. This is not for the squeamish or faint hearted poet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh, Carolee&#8230;.Once again you pirouette on the piquant plate of poetry. You have done your homework.</p>
<p>I heard a noted physician say that there are three things the human mind requires to be healthy: sleep, food, and sex. Odd isn&#8217;t it that as sentient creatures we often deprive our physical and mental well being of one or two of those needs. When thus deprived the mind and body indulges in over compensation for the missing need. I ponder, could it be said that deprivation of one of those three important mind needs is the pivot point of all the worlds troubles? Just an observation to titillate your poetic musings.</p>
<p>Here are some works to grind up in your mental latte.</p>
<p>1. Sleep: <a href="http://www.everypoet.com/Archive/Poetry/John_Keats/keats_to_sleep.htm" rel="nofollow"><strong> &#8216;To Sleep&#8217; by John Keats</strong></a>.</p>
<p>2.Food: <a href="http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-clean-plater/" rel="nofollow"><strong>&#8216;The Clean Plater&#8217; by Ogden Nash</strong></a>.</p>
<p>3. Sex: <a href="http://www.bartleby.com/142/20.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>&#8216;A Woman Waits for Me&#8217; by Walt Whitman</strong></a>.</p>
<p>Ginsberg is beginning to &#8216;Howl&#8217; in the back of my poetic mail room. But then if I linked his poem here (&#8230;thoughtful proverbial pregnant pause&#8230;) oh what the heck? Alright, Allen! Sum up all those life instances Carolee noted for the prompt. <a href="http://members.tripod.com/~Sprayberry/poems/howl.txt" rel="nofollow"><strong>&#8216;Howl&#8217; by Allen Ginsberg</strong></a>. This is not for the squeamish or faint hearted poet.</p>
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		<title>By: Lirone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lirone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m lucky that I don&#039;t find any topics particularly difficult to write about - never having experienced violence, abuse, serious illness or bad family relationships, and being generally quite comfortable writing about sex, relationships, doubts and fears, my body and death.

Sometimes I find there are issues that I feel a bit reluctant to address, but when I notice the reluctance I try to take it as a sign that I need to push through the resistance to write about that subject, because it often produces the most interesting writing.

I am learning to trust that the subjects that are closest to my heart, and express something deeply personal, will be most valuable and appreciated by others, because I&#039;m sharing a bit of myself, writing deeply rather than brilliantly.

One of the most interesting sources of reluctance I experience at the moment is not wanting to write about my last relationship because I feel I should be &quot;over it&quot; by now rather than still &quot;obsessing&quot;. But in fact I find writing about what I feel and have felt is a necessary part of healing and moving on, and I have agreed with myself that I will keep writing about that relationship any time I want to until it comes to a natural end - it&#039;s definitely slowing down now.

More generally, I find writing practices (see www.redravine.wordpress.com for some great examples) are great because just writing uncritically about a random topic often leaves open a space where whatever I wanted to write can come out - so I often find myself writing about what I was reluctant to write about, and not being able to stop or censor it because that&#039;s the rule with WPs!

I would also add that one of the things I try to do with my writing is find the bright light at the end of the tunnel as well as capturing the darkness of the the tunnel itself; - for me this is an important part of ensuring that writing about difficult issues is healing for me and for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m lucky that I don&#8217;t find any topics particularly difficult to write about &#8211; never having experienced violence, abuse, serious illness or bad family relationships, and being generally quite comfortable writing about sex, relationships, doubts and fears, my body and death.</p>
<p>Sometimes I find there are issues that I feel a bit reluctant to address, but when I notice the reluctance I try to take it as a sign that I need to push through the resistance to write about that subject, because it often produces the most interesting writing.</p>
<p>I am learning to trust that the subjects that are closest to my heart, and express something deeply personal, will be most valuable and appreciated by others, because I&#8217;m sharing a bit of myself, writing deeply rather than brilliantly.</p>
<p>One of the most interesting sources of reluctance I experience at the moment is not wanting to write about my last relationship because I feel I should be &#8220;over it&#8221; by now rather than still &#8220;obsessing&#8221;. But in fact I find writing about what I feel and have felt is a necessary part of healing and moving on, and I have agreed with myself that I will keep writing about that relationship any time I want to until it comes to a natural end &#8211; it&#8217;s definitely slowing down now.</p>
<p>More generally, I find writing practices (see <a href="http://www.redravine.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.redravine.wordpress.com</a> for some great examples) are great because just writing uncritically about a random topic often leaves open a space where whatever I wanted to write can come out &#8211; so I often find myself writing about what I was reluctant to write about, and not being able to stop or censor it because that&#8217;s the rule with WPs!</p>
<p>I would also add that one of the things I try to do with my writing is find the bright light at the end of the tunnel as well as capturing the darkness of the the tunnel itself; &#8211; for me this is an important part of ensuring that writing about difficult issues is healing for me and for others.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a wonderfully dark look at long-term relationships by Philip Larkin called &quot;Talking in Bed.&quot; I&#039;m not sure why but I&#039;ve always been drawn to works of art that take a darker view of things and Larkin is a master of this perspective. Some others that came to mind were &quot;Skunk Hour&quot; (one that stabs me every time I read it) and &quot;To Speak of Woe that is in Marriage&quot; (to show how honest a poet can be about himself) -- both by Robert Lowell.
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/talking-in-bed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a wonderfully dark look at long-term relationships by Philip Larkin called &#8220;Talking in Bed.&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure why but I&#8217;ve always been drawn to works of art that take a darker view of things and Larkin is a master of this perspective. Some others that came to mind were &#8220;Skunk Hour&#8221; (one that stabs me every time I read it) and &#8220;To Speak of Woe that is in Marriage&#8221; (to show how honest a poet can be about himself) &#8212; both by Robert Lowell.<br />
<a href="http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/talking-in-bed" rel="nofollow">http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/talking-in-bed</a></p>
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