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	<title>Comments on: informal talk about forms: the villanelle</title>
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	<description>because poem is an action</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: read write prompt #12: dressing up your poetry at Read Write Poem</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/2008/01/24/an-informal-talk-about-forms/#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>read write prompt #12: dressing up your poetry at Read Write Poem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at all; just use them as a starting point. If you&#8217;re obsessed with clothes, why not write a villanelle, the ideal poetic form for expressing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: diatribalArts</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/2008/01/24/an-informal-talk-about-forms/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>diatribalArts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>posted on the wrong thread by mistake, so posted again here.

http://diatribalarts.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/her-hands-are-cold/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>posted on the wrong thread by mistake, so posted again here.</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/2008/01/24/an-informal-talk-about-forms/#comment-840</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I'd try my hands at one.

Of course, I didn't realize I used the word time three times.

http://noahthegreat.wordpress.com/2008/01/29/dinnertime/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I&#8217;d try my hands at one.</p>
<p>Of course, I didn&#8217;t realize I used the word time three times.</p>
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		<title>By: gautami</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/2008/01/24/an-informal-talk-about-forms/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>gautami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love writing this form. At one time I never wrote anything other than structured poems. Villannele was on tops. 

Here is the link to my Villanelles, in case anyone is interested.

http://firmlyrooted.blogspot.com/search?q=villanelles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love writing this form. At one time I never wrote anything other than structured poems. Villannele was on tops. </p>
<p>Here is the link to my Villanelles, in case anyone is interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://firmlyrooted.blogspot.com/search?q=villanelles" rel="nofollow">http://firmlyrooted.blogspot.com/search?q=villanelles</a></p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, thanks for this explanation, and for the leads on the books. I'm going to try to combine the villanelle with math. We'll see what happens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, thanks for this explanation, and for the leads on the books. I&#8217;m going to try to combine the villanelle with math. We&#8217;ll see what happens!</p>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
		<link>http://readwritepoem.org/2008/01/24/an-informal-talk-about-forms/#comment-728</link>
		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely discussion of the villanelle.  Thank you!  I'm a big fan of the first two books you mention, which makes me think I'd better pick up the Kinze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely discussion of the villanelle.  Thank you!  I&#8217;m a big fan of the first two books you mention, which makes me think I&#8217;d better pick up the Kinze.</p>
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		<title>By: Poems on my block &#171; Mariacristina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poems on my block &#171; Mariacristina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you&#8217;re interested in poetic forms, head over to readwritepoem for Tom&#8217;s post on the villanelle. I wrote the prompt for this week, combining math with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tiel Aisha Ansari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiel Aisha Ansari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a really good prosody guide at http://www.volecentral.co.uk/vf/index.htm and another, more technical one at http://www.trobar.org/prosody/

I disagree about the obsessiveness of the villanelle. As I see it, the challenge of the villanelle is to make the repetitions not _just_ be repetitions-- the poem should move ahead with each stanza, so that the significance of the repeated phrases changes.

For obsessive, seems to me you can't beat the pantoum...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a really good prosody guide at <a href="http://www.volecentral.co.uk/vf/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.volecentral.co.uk/vf/index.htm</a> and another, more technical one at <a href="http://www.trobar.org/prosody/" rel="nofollow">http://www.trobar.org/prosody/</a></p>
<p>I disagree about the obsessiveness of the villanelle. As I see it, the challenge of the villanelle is to make the repetitions not _just_ be repetitions&#8211; the poem should move ahead with each stanza, so that the significance of the repeated phrases changes.</p>
<p>For obsessive, seems to me you can&#8217;t beat the pantoum&#8230;</p>
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